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Post by argionember on Oct 30, 2009 17:26:17 GMT -5
It's time to talk about the master himself! Post your thoughts, feelings, anyalizations, comments, or anything else about Flint HERE! I'll post what I think about him later, but i'll let you guys go first XD Here's the Pic above with my text: -Cody The Maverick
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Post by LabCoatLem on Oct 30, 2009 17:31:12 GMT -5
Well, what can one say about Flint. Very intelligent, I respect him very much for that. Also not afraid to show the world his personality, which I have trouble doing myself, so once again, a lot of respect there. If I met him, I'd ask him to teach me more about Science, and how exactly the works, because it's not Scientifically possible without the right chemicals ... I'll be quiet about that now.
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Post by argionember on Oct 30, 2009 17:56:36 GMT -5
"Have you ever felt...like...you were...a little bit...different? Like you had something, unique to offer the world, if you could just get people to see it? Then you know exactly how it felt...to be... ME." ...And me. Yeah, I know what it feels like. The quote above is what opens Cloudy with A Chance of Meatballs, and with an opening line like that, he's gotta be an outcast. Now, I connected with Flint on a very personal and deep level, because I'm almost like a female version of him. Science was my best(and still is) subject in school, and I loved to make crafts and experiments when I was a kid. I also was made fun of a lot in school, but most of the time I didn't even know it. I didn't know it until I was about 8 years old, when I found out I had Asperger's Syndrome. Now, Asperger's isn't a physical disorder like being crippled, nor is it a mental disorder that can easily be seen, like Down Syndrome. It can't easily be recionized at first glance, you would have to "get to know me" in order to discover that there's something a bit wrong with me. I don't wanna stress all the details, but to get a basic idea of what this is like, go look at the Wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndromeNow you know, that is, if you looked at the above link. Anyway, you might be asking, "What role does Flint play in all of this?" Well, from even before I saw the movie, I could tell that there was a bit of me in him. Yep, I thought he had asperger's too. If you wanna see my reasons for this, see the "Does Flint have Asperger's?" thread: www.flintlockwoodslab.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=chardiss&action=display&thread=13But, Asperger's aside, me and Flint both have a lot more in common. There were times I felt like giving up, times when I felt very different. And we both want to prove ourselves But, really, anyone can relate to that, right? XD But I felt a lot of pain for him during some scenes, because I knew what it was like firsthand. My favorite "sad" scene would have to be the fishbowl, because, like I said in the "Symbolic Meanings" thread, it was like he was in a total world of his own, just like his shoes represented that he couldn't run away from himself. All those people yelling at him, his dad giving him "that look," when he CRACKED THE BOWL...OMG...Believe me, I'm a tough person when it comes to movies. I don't cry at Mufasa's death in The Lion King, nor do I shed a tear at the death of Bambi's mom...BUT THAT ONE TINY SCENE...I was seriously on the verge of tears. I also felt pain every time Flint saw his reflection. It's only a few times, but it is in there, and every time my heart ached because I know the feeling of seeing your reflection in "that way." Even though it's quite overused in other movies, a reflection is a powerful thing, but it's the most powerful when you don't know the face staring back at you. I'm sure Flint felt that way at one point in his life, and I have too. Flint is used to being different, and I am too. But I'm sure we both get upset about it every now and then. The ridicule, the teasing, the ignorance, the isolation, the bullying...Flint had to go through it all, and his WHOLE LIFE too. But through our trials and errors, we will someday learn to live with our uniquenessess. One last thing before I wrap this up, I hope the world will someday understand the Asperger mind, because at school, everyone makes fun of me, and I try to stop them by being serious, but it turns out to them, I can't be serious, I only end up being funny. And they think i'm acting funny when I'm only being myself. Ignoring it dosen't work. "Playing along with it" dosen't work, because that just makes me look even more stupid. So they continue to make fun of me, JUST so they can see my "funny" reaction. I always feel so alone, asking myself something that I believe Flint may have asked millions of times: "WHY ME!?" So, differences are not always skin deep, because Asperger's lies in my brain and my brain alone, and it effects my WHOLE life. But I'll learn to live with it all someday... ...thanks to Flint Lockwood. I hope he'll help me cope with my brain and embrace it, just like he once did...in order to save the world from giant food. XD Yeah, I've felt "a little bit different," but thanks to the very special spirit of Flint Lockwood...I don't have too. -Cody The Maverick
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Post by LabCoatLem on Oct 31, 2009 7:05:59 GMT -5
Awh man, that's such a lovely post Cody. Really touching, and it really explains your feelings and the trials you have to go through at school. I mean, I know how it feels to be 'different', picked on for liking Science and talking to my teachers a lot, but I think with you, your different-ness helped you connect to Flint very well. *Virtual Hugs* It's strange how one can connect to a fictional character, no? I mean, I felt the exact same way about Sam. The connection, it's just brilliant. I hope that you continue to be the determined and awesome person that you are Remember that we'll always be here for you, and so will Flint, when others are not
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Post by argionember on Nov 18, 2009 21:09:02 GMT -5
*Virtual-hugs you back* Yeah, some good points you have there Lem. Now, I'm just sad that no one is posting in this thread, so I'll post myself. I just found this poem I did a few months ago out of bored-ness. I's about me telling someone about my Asperger's, without really saying that I have it. Figuring that Flint might have it too, I decided I'll post it here for you guys to see. You think i'm just so ignorant clueless and clumsy with a loud voice that no one can handle you might just judge me walk away say i'm wierd strange freak of nature you'll just tease me ignore me try to talk over me push me but take a minute stop and think what would you do if you were me? if your body was uncontrolable and your thoughts were unthinkable you just want to change me so i'm more like you but trust me i can't i just can't no one can this is the way i am and that will never change
Because there is no shame in being different... ...just honor.
-Cody The Maverick-Cody The Maverick
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Post by hooba212 on Nov 18, 2009 22:34:56 GMT -5
I think that poem you wrote was great, Cody. Did you ever think of making a collection? And then maybe getting it printed or published? A lot of people might enjoy it. The poem got me thinking. What other people think about you (or anyone for that matter) being different should never really matter-- especially if you're in touch with your own inner emotional guidance system. Sure, being ostracized for being unlike others may be unpleasant, (downright painful if you let it!) but ultimately it seems that the point of living a fulfilling life is to be in tune with who YOU are, and the BEAUTY of who you are...and to know with your whole heart all that you innately want to do that makes you truly happy. And to have the courage to do it. Many people 'miss the boat' in that respect, because they are always trying to please others, since it's a natural thing that when other people approve of us in some way, it makes us feel good. What happens when the persons offering 'approval' want you to do something detrimental to your well-being and to the well-being of others because they like it? Or 'they' would feel good if you did it? Living a life that pleases others to the exception of yourself and 'fitting in' can hardly be a right way to live, in that regard. 'Acceptance' should be the goal, not 'fitting in'. And acceptance can be achieved easily enough IF people decided to be open-minded enough to see beyond 'forms' (the outer person) and accept people for who they are, (personalities and quirks) and start celebrating and enjoying the beauty of diversity. You know what I think? I think if a person is truly, deeply connected to who they really are, the deeper part of themselves, like their spirit? The part of them that goes beyond the form, more than their 'personality'...maybe like... their 'soul'? I think they can always be happy in spite of what anyone else thinks of them. Especially if its negative. Because when you get in touch with that part of you there's only a joy that rises up in you or an inner peace that prevails no matter what the circumstances around you are. *Sighs* Sorry for rambling on like this, but that poem really got me thinking that unique individuals who can't help but shine or standout in some way-- are already in a better position that most people to understand that the path to true happiness lies within their own self-acceptance and self worth. It really seems to me (when I look around at the world in general) that too many people forget the beauty of true individuality since they are often trying so hard to 'fit in' and be like everyone else. Why would ANYONE want to be 'controlled' by another's expectations of them and conform to being like everyone else appears to be? Anyway, I'll cease this rambling-on now. I just felt like sharing my thoughts, and I hope nothing I've written has offended in any way. If you have any more poems you should post them! ;D
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Post by LabCoatLem on Nov 19, 2009 13:36:47 GMT -5
Oh wow, Cody that poem is absolutely beautiful! And it really gets you thinking. If you ever write more, I'd love to see your work Hooba makes wonderful points, and I completely agree. I think everyone has experienced that moment of feeling different, simply because we are. Whether you put that down to genetic variation, the presence of a soul, or something else, is completely up to you. But the fact of the matter is that nobody on this entire planet is exactly the same. We are all individuals, and we should be proud of that. If everyone was the same, everything would be so dull!
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Post by argionember on Nov 19, 2009 15:44:37 GMT -5
Yeah, nice points to both of you! Although we may have learned to accept those who are different on the outside, I believe the world as a whole still needs to try and accept those who are different on the inside, even they may look completely "normal" on the outside, like me.(FLINT TOO!) But back on topic... I think Flint is AWESOME, and heyyyy...just thought of something: One of the things that makes Flint so unique and awesome is the fact that he never really "changes" over the course of the film, but he seems to change everyone he comes in contact with and everyone who is affected by the . Allow me to elaborate: BECAUSE OF FLINT... -Sam learns to accept her "smarty" trueself that she left behind as a kid -Steve discovers his purpose through the gummy bears -Tim learns to accept his son, even though they make be total opposites -Brent discovers his trueself and becomes CHICKEN BRENT -Earl learns to be a bit nicer and that his son is not the center of his life -Manny reveals his secret life as a pilot -Cal learns to...eat less junk food? XD -The Mayor learns....well, we all know what happened to him. And though all of them have changed, FLINT IS STILL FLINT!!! -Cody The Maverick
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Post by evalana on Nov 19, 2009 15:58:31 GMT -5
It's a good point, there, but it isn't true that Flint doesn't change. It's been pointed out in various places that Flint learns to take responsibility for his inventions, both the successes and failures. At the beginning of the film, he is shown to have always moved on from his past failures, letting them go in order to work on something completely different. And after the whole thing with the spaghetti twister and the satellite uplink being severed, he counts himself in with his failures, essentially giving up on himself. It isn't until after his dad gives him back the labcoat that Flint starts to move forward by going back: he retools the flying car, but the most significant improvement is the most obvious: wings. Almost makes you wonder why he didn't go back and add them after the first test run, but that wasn't where his character was yet. And it is in fact his very first invention that ends up saving the day, plus, as the end credits shoe, he was finally able to see the practical application for a spray-on adhesive that never comes off. (And as for Brent, I saw his big lesson being "It's not all about me.")
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Post by argionember on Nov 19, 2009 17:08:23 GMT -5
Good points, but i mean that his character never takes a huge U-turn at any point in the story if you know what I mean. It's the same thing for Wall-e in WALL-E, he learns that his life is not about his directive, but he's still the same guy Yeah, Flint changes a few times throughout the story, but in the end, he's the same unique and special character he was at the start. -Cody The Maverick
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Post by breezyrulez on Feb 18, 2010 17:27:37 GMT -5
"Have you ever felt...like...you were...a little bit...different? Like you had something, unique to offer the world, if you could just get people to see it? Then you know exactly how it felt...to be... ME." ...And me. Yeah, I know what it feels like. The quote above is what opens Cloudy with A Chance of Meatballs, and with an opening line like that, he's gotta be an outcast. Now, I connected with Flint on a very personal and deep level, because I'm almost like a female version of him. Science was my best(and still is) subject in school, and I loved to make crafts and experiments when I was a kid. I also was made fun of a lot in school, but most of the time I didn't even know it. I didn't know it until I was about 8 years old, when I found out I had Asperger's Syndrome. Now, Asperger's isn't a physical disorder like being crippled, nor is it a mental disorder that can easily be seen, like Down Syndrome. It can't easily be recionized at first glance, you would have to "get to know me" in order to discover that there's something a bit wrong with me. I don't wanna stress all the details, but to get a basic idea of what this is like, go look at the Wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndromeNow you know, that is, if you looked at the above link. Anyway, you might be asking, "What role does Flint play in all of this?" Well, from even before I saw the movie, I could tell that there was a bit of me in him. Yep, I thought he had asperger's too. If you wanna see my reasons for this, see the "Does Flint have Asperger's?" thread: www.flintlockwoodslab.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=chardiss&action=display&thread=13But, Asperger's aside, me and Flint both have a lot more in common. There were times I felt like giving up, times when I felt very different. And we both want to prove ourselves But, really, anyone can relate to that, right? XD But I felt a lot of pain for him during some scenes, because I knew what it was like firsthand. My favorite "sad" scene would have to be the fishbowl, because, like I said in the "Symbolic Meanings" thread, it was like he was in a total world of his own, just like his shoes represented that he couldn't run away from himself. All those people yelling at him, his dad giving him "that look," when he CRACKED THE BOWL...OMG...Believe me, I'm a tough person when it comes to movies. I don't cry at Mufasa's death in The Lion King, nor do I shed a tear at the death of Bambi's mom...BUT THAT ONE TINY SCENE...I was seriously on the verge of tears. I also felt pain every time Flint saw his reflection. It's only a few times, but it is in there, and every time my heart ached because I know the feeling of seeing your reflection in "that way." Even though it's quite overused in other movies, a reflection is a powerful thing, but it's the most powerful when you don't know the face staring back at you. I'm sure Flint felt that way at one point in his life, and I have too. Flint is used to being different, and I am too. But I'm sure we both get upset about it every now and then. The ridicule, the teasing, the ignorance, the isolation, the bullying...Flint had to go through it all, and his WHOLE LIFE too. But through our trials and errors, we will someday learn to live with our uniquenessess. One last thing before I wrap this up, I hope the world will someday understand the Asperger mind, because at school, everyone makes fun of me, and I try to stop them by being serious, but it turns out to them, I can't be serious, I only end up being funny. And they think i'm acting funny when I'm only being myself. Ignoring it dosen't work. "Playing along with it" dosen't work, because that just makes me look even more stupid. So they continue to make fun of me, JUST so they can see my "funny" reaction. I always feel so alone, asking myself something that I believe Flint may have asked millions of times: "WHY ME!?" So, differences are not always skin deep, because Asperger's lies in my brain and my brain alone, and it effects my WHOLE life. But I'll learn to live with it all someday... ...thanks to Flint Lockwood. I hope he'll help me cope with my brain and embrace it, just like he once did...in order to save the world from giant food. XD Yeah, I've felt "a little bit different," but thanks to the very special spirit of Flint Lockwood...I don't have too. -Cody The Maverick Cody - that was absoloutley amazing - what you posted. I feel exactly that same way, too. You know, I'm really glad that you made this forum. It really gives me a place to express myself about this movie and other things without being made fun of... it really makes me feel like I'm not alone. Everybody at my school makes fun of me for what I post on Youtube, and just for being...... me. Once again, thanks. ~BR Attachments:
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Post by hannahlockwood12 on Feb 18, 2010 20:59:28 GMT -5
I know exacly how you feel. I'm trying to show everyone my new invention called "Spray-on Shoes" Its not really shoes you spray on; it actually foot deoderant. Anyway, I try to show everyone it but they laugh and call me a freak one kid in my class said "What a freak! She wants to be smart, But thats lame." The only person who understands me is my mom. She always says I'm special which gave me coffidense. To make everyone like me, I am about to make a machine to end world hunger. It's called The Hannah McGilvray Diatonic Super Mutating Dinamic Food Replicater or The HMDSMDFR. P.S. I made up the McGilvray part its not my real last name.
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Post by vhills on Feb 28, 2010 14:03:41 GMT -5
wow, there is no other place where people talk as much about flint as here. ôO it's amazing how he gets into our real lifes with such an ease! i think i've just fallen into a loverly community with loverly and real people here. i like. x) and now i'm going to blurt out something completely random, but still topic-fitting? did you know flint has a twitter? twitter.com/FLINTi'm not using twitter myself, but if you start reading it from the very beginning (which means clicking "more" on the bottom of the list until there won't appear anything new) some tweets will surely amuse you.
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Post by hannahlockwood12 on Mar 10, 2010 20:49:35 GMT -5
CodyTheMaverick said "You think i'm just so ignorant clueless and clumsy with a loud voice that no one can handle you might just judge me walk away say i'm wierd strange freak of nature you'll just tease me ignore me try to talk over me push me but take a minute stop and think what would you do if you were me? if your body was uncontrolable and your thoughts were unthinkable you just want to change me so i'm more like you but trust me i can't i just can't no one can this is the way i am and that will never change
Because there is no shame in being different... ...just honor." After I printed this out (to show my mom), I showed it to her and she thought that it was beutiful. I think she thinks that I wrote it. I wanted to tell her that I didn't write it, but before I could, she said extremely good thing about me and she never said anything like that before. Then one month later, mom told my grandma and she told my grandpa to read it and he put it on the church's bulliten next sunday. I want to tell her, but she is too proud of me and i don't know what she'll think of me if i tell her. WHAT SHOULD I DO?!
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Post by argionember on Mar 11, 2010 6:20:33 GMT -5
Well...you should tell your mom that I wrote it, because taking someone else's work and claiming it as your own is illegal and an infrigment of copyright. And, to be honest, I don't mind putting an anomyiss label on this poem if it gets put in something like that, but I don't want someone else's name on MY poem.
Sorry if this upsets you, Hanna.
-Cody The Maverick
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